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General Discussion · Guppy Investigations
msg #149856
12/11/2019 11:46:29 AM


Passages from Guppy's book such as:

"How we decide to trade these trends
and selec
the entry tactic depends
upon our understanding of the relationship between traders - the short-term
group of averages - and investors - represented by the long-term group of

and having watched some of his videos such as the one posted in the SF Stock Picks and Trading forum 'CLVS'

Ed S.

General Discussion · Guppy Investigations
msg #149845
12/10/2019 10:32:33 AM

Guppy Heresy!!!!

First let me state that I am a big fan of the Guppy multiple moving average approach.

However, some of you may have noticed that I usually don't refer to the 2 main groups of Guppy Exponential Moving Averages as the 'Traders' group and 'Investors' group but I refer to them as short term group and long term group.

My reasoning for this is that I believe since most of any kind of moving average calculation is based on price history it seems only logical to me that the calculation of the 30,35,40,45,50 and 60 day "Investors" moving averages are using the daily price numbers from those accumulation groupings of day's in the past, yet at the time those very same prices were more recent price history they made up the 3,5,,8,10,12, 15 'Traders" moving averages.

In other words if today's prices for any stock indicates 'Traders' buying and selling activity how can using those same prices from more than 29 days ago indicate another group of 'Investors' had actually been doing the buying and selling.

Agree or Disagree?
Ed S.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149844
12/10/2019 10:10:08 AM

@ jiten_ch,

Graftonian's filter posted in Filter Exchange "Another Weinstein filter" is probably a good place to start for most of the Weinstein criteria you are interested in.

Ed S.

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149831
12/7/2019 1:25:22 PM


a. I'm a big believer in using trial subscriptions to find new stock charting, scanning, etc info. So you could try which provides a free 30 day and they have realtime data for US stocks but in their multiple chart screen they seem to only offer one type of intraday chart of 10 minutes. I don't remember if they have VWAP or not.

b. The old has been brought back under the TC2000 umbrella but is still available for free Follow these steps to get to it:


into you browser address bar and then /__REMOVED__/

at their site choose the get started for Free bar,
provide an email address, download the software.

provide a password and screen name and choose run Free version when it comes up,

That should provide all of the intraday chart types on one screen along with watchlist and indicator capability.
I think the data is mostly realtime from BATS but it can vary up to 15 or 20 minutes
They even offer free 3 hour Gold trial and that might repeat each day,
c. The reason I asked about screen size is that I was thinking you could have 2 or more browser tabs displayed as separate windows(normally by just dragging the tab past the side boundary of your main browser window) and use an SF filter that is applied to only your watchlist with the data you want to see in the columns and in the other tab window have the corresponding SF chart or some other websites chart if you like them better. but that's a no go since you want at least 3 intraday timeframes displayed

Ed S.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149830
12/7/2019 1:13:27 PM

I was surprised that this filter wouldn't run on the basic subscription without Cheese's one line edit. It appears my backtest accumulation variables are part of the issue.
Ed S.

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149823
12/6/2019 10:22:51 AM


Regarding your request

"If you or anyone knows of any non-broker free platform that allows updated intraday watchlist quotes and charts"

A few questions as that screen image that you provided shows quite a bit of stuff.

1. How big is your monitor, or are you using more than one monitor?

2. How important is it for you to have the Time and Sales info and or the Dow Jones News info?

3. How frequent must the intraday updates be or is 15 to 20 minute delay OK?

I have some ideas but I'd rather they be relevant.
Ed S.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149800
12/4/2019 2:39:29 PM

Below is first backtest which I tried to keep as simple as possible as I basically was only testing the ma(150) for past true and false conditions.

I will clean it up a bit in the next iteration as stocks such as CLVS should be showing up when I run the filter today, but is only showing up on Dec 2 even though this filter is supposed to be looking back 1 year from today.

As always questions and comments are welcome,
Ed S.

market is not etf
average volume(30) > 500000
low > 5

/* 1-2: General assumptions about price and volume*/
close > open
close 1 day ago > open 1 day ago
volume > volume 1 day ago

/* 3: 30-week MA */
/* setting true or false variables for the above and below ma(150) conditions*/
set{cl1,count(close 1 day ago > MA(150),1)}
set{cl2,count(close 2 days ago < MA(150),1)}

/*multiplying those 2 variables together for true when both are 1 or false when 0*/

draw ma(150)

/*setting variable for next day Close-Open Percent Gain*/
set{var2, opcl / open}
set{var3, var2 * 100}

/*Testing the gain variable for 1 day gain or loss*/
set{var4, count( var3 is between 0 and 100, 1)}
set{var6, count( var3 is between -100 and 0, 1)}

/*Only want days filter is true for past year times gain is true or times loss is true*/
set{Tru12, comb1*var4 }
set{var5, count(tru12 > 0 ,252)} and add column var5 {next day winners }
set{Tru13, comb1*var6 }
set{var8, count(tru13 > 0 ,252)} and add column var8 {next day losers }
set{var20, var5 + var8} add column var20 {total hits }
and sort column 7 descending
var20 > 0

/*set variables to draw gains and loss days when true in past year*/
set{var7, Tru12*var3 } draw var7
set{var9, Tru13*var3 } draw var9
chart-time is 252 days

/* 4: Long-range background
set{var1,high 1 day ago}
set{var2, high 3-year high 2 days ago}
set{NewHighs,count(var1 > var2,50)}
add column NewHighs
var1 > var2*/

/* 5: Relative-strength line
Relative Strength(^SPX,150) > 1.5
30-day slope of Relative Strength(^SPX,150) > 0

draw ma(150)
draw high 3-year high
draw Relative Strength(^SPX,150)
do not draw var1
do not draw var2*/

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149798
12/4/2019 12:57:40 PM

1. This thread will hopefully cover several purposes:

a. to finally prepare at least one Weinstein backtest filter that I promised weeks ago

b. to show that it is not that hard for the rest of you to implement backtest filter lines to your own filters so you don't have to wait on me to get around to it.

c. to explore Weinstein filters methodology in more depth as from reading his book and part of the way thru analyzing his book charts more thoroughly I believe his method has lots of SF filter potential.

2. I plan on starting with filters from the Mactheriverrat thread in General Discussion entitle "Stan Weinstein's Secrets For Profiting in Bull and Bear Markets"

a. So first up is Xarlors filter from Jun 29th.

b. If I run that filter for yesterday it comes up with 2 stocks RDNT and EVER,

Looking at the chart for RDNT it most recently crossed above the daily 150 simple moving avg on Oct 3 and has gained near 36% since then.

Looking at the chart for EVER it most recently crossed above the daily 150 simple moving avg on Apr 23 and has gained near 341% since then.

Two stocks don't make a study but seems to have promise especially since the 28 charts I orginally analyzed from his book had an avg gain of 237% and 10 of those that I've analyzed a little more have had an avg gain of 58% in the first 3 months of trading. I started the 3 month analysis because I realized a lot of his charts showed stocks that really took off early and I know many of SF'ers aren't long term traders.

Next step will be to try and backtest a Weinstein filter that only looks for stocks above the 150 day simple moving avg. that Xarlor used (Weinstein preferred a weighted moving avg)

Ed S.

General Discussion · Fibonacci screener
msg #149778
12/3/2019 11:04:06 AM


As far as I'm concerned anything I post is open for anyone to comment on, no matter who I might start off addressing it to.

If I don't want anyone to comment I'll do a "read only" post.

Ed S.

General Discussion · Fibonacci screener
msg #149769
12/3/2019 1:57:09 AM


If you mean the gains and losses columns being almost equal seems to indicate that touching the first Fib line randomly trends to 1 day profits or 1 day losses based on the difference between the open and close for that next day;, I agree.

However, not being a Fib technical trader, I'm not sure that a 1 day gain or loss is what Fib guys normally look for after a touch and bounce.

I was kind of hoping Xarlor or someone else would suggest a number of days that the profit/loss should be measured ove,r before I tried modifying this backtest filter for measuring a longer period of gains/losses, which might require quite a few line modifications.

Ed S.

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