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General Discussion · What needs to be done now...
marine2
msg #151338
3/20/2020 11:55:21 PM

If China would have revealed the truth of this virus to other countries earlier than they did it would have saved lives. Did they deliberately do that to hurt other country’s economies? China, Russia, and Iran are all hurting in their economy and wanted the world to suffer too? Isn’t it strange why China was blaming our military in passing the virus to them, or how Russia, and Iran are running their mouthes now in a negative fashion towards our country. You and I know China, Russia, and Iran, do not want Trump to be re-elected. They would love to have Biden as our leader all because they have him in their back pocket. Is’nt it strange that when this virus got over to our country Russia had this fight over oil and how it should be allocated? Too many questions on their behavior (China’s, Russia’s, and Iran’s) at this time. When this crisis is finally controlled our leaders will need to analyze what these 3 are up to. Let us pray that the Democrats are not siding with these 3 bad countries.

General Discussion · What needs to be done now...
marine2
msg #151334
modified
3/20/2020 9:55:26 PM

Karenenama, you being the smart one by not trading anymore. Perhaps you either lost your faith in what you were doing or the market itself and the losses you had cleaned out your purse. And since you don’t know where I stood in trading just assuming this current market decline has hurt me. Or maybe your comments were not aimed at me but for others that have been caught in this off-the-table market decline?

My previous implied comment about finding better ways to handle fear in the markets to which trillions of dollars go out the window was an honest statement. Obviously you didn’t have a better solution to the NYSE’s safeguard’s they currently are using now. Apparently, it’s not broke.

I will agree with you that the market was at a topper and was straining to reach for more. The best way was the Cramer method where you take money off the top (in this case lots of it) because what goes up must come down.



Filter Exchange · Words of advice on Short Term Trading
marine2
msg #151327
3/20/2020 1:19:01 PM

Cheese, if one still wants to play the game of trading yes, those companies you mention are worth a look. Any company that are helping people through this virus environment would be excellent candidates for possibly buying into. Look at what they make, look at their price actions via a chart, look at their financials, then test them against your favorite filters just to see if they “light” up. No stone left unturned as far as making money in a crisis. We are not bad people if we can make money off companies that are vitally needed in this war against this invisible foe. Good luck in your investing endeavors.

Filter Exchange · Words of advice on Short Term Trading
marine2
msg #151313
3/19/2020 11:05:02 PM

Lastly, I remember reading, studying the IBD (Investor’s Business Daily) and they liked you to get out of a stock when it dipped 8%-10% years ago. Ha, I tried that and lost too much before it wanted to make its comeback. So, I just shortened the window a bit. And it worked for me.

Filter Exchange · Words of advice on Short Term Trading
marine2
msg #151312
3/19/2020 10:58:53 PM

Now about when to get back in these troubling days is when I use logic instead of filters. Meaning, when kids get back to school, when workers are at their workplace in a normal fashion, when your sports teams are playing before crowds again, and stores and malls are not closed. Once this virus has been controlled and the numbers of people getting this virus is going down and the recovery % is improving. All this has to happen before I feel safe enough to jump back in and play the game again.

Filter Exchange · Words of advice on Short Term Trading
marine2
msg #151310
modified
3/19/2020 10:49:06 PM

Well for me, I have a few really nice filters that work for me in getting alerted to considering a company, or an index to buy into. My interpretation / filter in finding the right equity might not be the way, the filter for someone else.

I am a trend buyer, from the initial beginning of a trend or in the middle of one. Initially in finding companies to pick from are by using screens via Fidelity’s filters, and AAII’s (American Association of Individual Investors). In these two I screen for strong financial balance sheets, with low to no debt. I also like companies with growth the last two quarters.

Assuming you are “long” on finding a stock to trade, I then put these companies stock symbols into a StockFetcher “Watch List”. Then I add the Watch List (WL#’s) into my StockFetcher filter(s). In the StockFetcher filter I am looking for companies with an MA(300) moving upward but optionable. I stay with a price over $5. Adding to this is, watching the Weekly Macd(12,26,9) Slow and Fast lines in their behavior and their relationship to each other means a lot to me. The Weekly Macd is your trend makeup. That old saying, “let the trend be your friend” holds true. Note: Never pick anything shortly after the Weekly Macd Fast Line is crossing below the Slow Line. Then use the weekly Slow Stochastic(5.5) %K and the Weekly Slow Stochastic(5,5) %D for a trigger. How low the Weekly Slow Stochastic(5,5) %K should be before it crosses above %D is up to you. Myself I like it below 65.

But, I have a few other filters that are reliable too. The way I look at it is, if you win 75% of the time you are doing well. Never be upset if you miss a pick every so often. Note: I do not have the “advanced” version to our filter creation. I never needed it.

Filter Exchange · Words of advice on Short Term Trading
marine2
msg #151300
3/19/2020 3:26:55 PM

The “when” question to get out of a short term trade is to sell after a price decline of 2%. Most times than not when the stock reverses downward it usually goes past that 2% for the decline in process. You gambled on it moving upward and it didn’t respond the way your filter was telling you. Now with the general market you could go to a larger decline % maybe 5% to 7% realizing the market needs to rest briefly before making its way upward again.

With this crisis and how high our markets were any ways the 5% to 7% decline should have been everyone’s warning to lighten their load out of equities. Learning with time invested is the greatest investing tool you can have.

Just saying.


General Discussion · BA
marine2
msg #151299
3/19/2020 3:25:24 PM

The “when” question to get out of a short term trade is to sell after a price decline of 2%. Most times than not when the stock reverses downward it usually goes past that 2% for the decline in process. You gambled on it moving upward and it didn’t respond the way your filter was telling you. Now with the general market you could go to a larger decline % maybe 5% to 7% realizing the market needs to rest briefly before making its way upward again.

With this crisis and how high our markets were any ways the 5% to 7% decline should have been everyone’s warning to lighten their load out of equities. Learning with time invested is the greatest investing tool you can have.

Just saying.

Stock Picks and Trading · Let’s have this type of action from our Market Chiefs...
marine2
msg #151298
3/19/2020 3:11:20 PM

3/19/2020 3:05:32 AM

Just saying, our exchanges need a better safety mechanism than the current method they’re using now. If the news is of catastrophic news then something must be done instead of watching trillions of dollars evaporate. Granted the short investors that are good at their game make out like bandits while the rest of the country and in this case the world sits there in shambles. Perhaps force all companies once the market falls over 7% (for example) they must buy back so many shares of their own stock? Obviously, each company would have to have a safety reserve fund to reach into each time the market dives like that. Perhaps, the government could help each company fill their safety reserves with money that normally be used for Federal taxes the government would tax them? Bottom line is, find ways to slow or stop the sudden stock price declines. It’s always the same statement Investment brokers give to their clients when the market drops like a rock, do not sell your equities, sit tight and let the fear subside. Meanwhile, that client continues to see his nest egg bleed out. Human’s can only take so much damage to their life’s savings before they liquidate their equity positions. Fear and Exuberance drives the markets and especially with fear there must be better ways to calm the markets than what’s currently being used.

General Discussion · What needs to be done now...
marine2
msg #151297
3/19/2020 3:10:41 PM

3/19/2020 3:05:32 AM

Just saying, our exchanges need a better safety mechanism than the current method they’re using now. If the news is of catastrophic news then something must be done instead of watching trillions of dollars evaporate. Granted the short investors that are good at their game make out like bandits while the rest of the country and in this case the world sits there in shambles. Perhaps force all companies once the market falls over 7% (for example) they must buy back so many shares of their own stock? Obviously, each company would have to have a safety reserve fund to reach into each time the market dives like that. Perhaps, the government could help each company fill their safety reserves with money that normally be used for Federal taxes the government would tax them? Bottom line is, find ways to slow or stop the sudden stock price declines. It’s always the same statement Investment brokers give to their clients when the market drops like a rock, do not sell your equities, sit tight and let the fear subside. Meanwhile, that client continues to see his nest egg bleed out. Human’s can only take so much damage to their life’s savings before they liquidate their equity positions. Fear and Exuberance drives the markets and especially with fear there must be better ways to calm the markets than what’s currently being used.

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