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Stock Picks and Trading · Happy Holidays!!
msg #140372
12/24/2017 6:02:40 PM

Merry Christmas to you and yours as well, JP!

And to everyone here, Merry Christmas!!

msg #140369
12/24/2017 4:44:55 PM


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Weekly data used (I did three separate OneClick runs and combined them). Portfolio of 10 returns 21.78% per year, annualized Sharpe ratio is a ridiculously high 4.22. Win percentage is not astounding (73%). Total number of trades is 296 (about 50/50 long and short).

Stock Picks and Trading · Shills Swing N Daily
msg #140356
12/23/2017 8:46:54 PM

Batch -> Learning -> AfterLearn (if you own the software).

Let's try to keep Shills thread clean on these types of software questions. You can email me if you are an owner of the software and I will do what I can to help. If not, I will be posting the systems signals in the other thread. Kevin

General Discussion · digital currencies or cryptocurrencies
msg #140348
12/23/2017 1:09:28 PM

That's the difference between BLOCKCHAIN and Bitcoin. Blockchain is what the banks are seeing as the future, not cryptocurrencies that are mined by speculators.


msg #140347
12/23/2017 1:07:06 PM

Here are the current trades for each system, and the new trading signal (BUY/SELL/HOLD) for the coming week.

FXILONG8/14/2017 $20,000.00$42.16$45.98$1,812.149.06%HOLD
GDXSHORT12/4/2017 $20,000.00 $22.26$22.89($566.04)-2.75%HOLD
JOSHORT12/11/2017 $20,000.00 $15.21 $14.95 $341.88 1.74%HOLD
OILNONE- - -$6.28 --BUY
RSXLONG12/11/2017 $20,000.00 $21.72 $21.11 ($561.69)-2.81%HOLD
SLVSHORT12/18/2017 $20,000.00 $15.20 $15.40 ($263.16)-1.30%HOLD
SMHLONG8/21/2017 $20,000.00 $85.65 $99.16 $3,154.70 15.77%HOLD
UNGSHORT12/11/2017 $20,000.00 $5.62 $5.25 $1,316.73 7.05%HOLD
VNQLONG12/18/2017 $20,000.00 $85.26 $81.82 ($806.94)-4.03%HOLD
XBILONG12/18/2017 $20,000.00 $82.29 $84.58 $556.57 2.78%HOLD
XIVLONG12/18/2017 $20,000.00 $135.17 $135.28 $16.28 0.08%HOLD
XOPNONE- --$36.85--HOLD

One new BUY signal for OIL, and several trades that are currently trading at a loss that represent opportunities to get into these trades at a better price.

I will be shorting the triple leveraged variants for each of these trades, taking the opening price on Tuesday for my entries, and track then until the signals indicate to close out the trades.

Stock Picks and Trading · Shills Swing N Daily
msg #140344
12/23/2017 11:16:24 AM

I really can't put things like the MA(20) into the system, as that is not how the NN systems work - they may include MAs as part of the inputs into the models, but I cannot be sure. In the advanced settings you can add in moving averages but I doubt they would be able to improve on the current system results (not one less than 95% win rate and all are quite solid ROIs).

Drawdown - this software does not generate an equity curve, so seeing the drawdowns or calculating the Sharpe ratio needs to be done manually. I considered doing that to help determine optimal allocation weightings, but in the end I think I'll just trade a set amount to each signal as they are generated. Over time as the results come in that might be an area for further refinement but for right now I plan to keep it as simple as possible.

msg #140343
12/23/2017 7:53:50 AM

That would work. I havenít tried it yet but I have found with combined long and short systems SS tends to give you win rates that are in the 70/80% range over longer time frames. Certainly good but not at the level Iím seeing with the NN systems.

Maybe a contest to see who can produce the best XIV long and short system from 2011-2017 using either daily or weekly data?

msg #140338
12/22/2017 10:32:50 PM

So as 2017 comes to a close I once again begin to think about how I traded over the course of the year (mostly good, a few really bad trades), what my main investment vehicles have been (XIV mostly) and what my trading approaches have been (mean reversion, gap fades, Stratasearch multisystems, etc.). Overall I had one of my best years ever, but I probably could have done better if I had

1. Been more committed to following system signals rather than trying to "out-think" my own trading systems.

2. Spent more time developing systems across a broader range of investments, rather than mostly shorting volatility, and

3. Traded less often, rather than more often.

While the first issue is purely psychological, and last two can be addressed by taking time to look at other investment options, other trading strategies, and thinking more deeply about managing risk - I cannot think that 2018 will look anything like 2017 did, where it was hard NOT to make money. I had occasionally placed nearly all of my trading capital into a single asset (XIV) which worked out okay in the end but was not actually a good risk management approach. While the current low volatility environment may continue for some time, it would be wise to look at other non-correlated assets that could provide good returns while spreading some risk across my portfolio.


To start off the new year, I want to keep XIV as part of a core set of investments, but to identify a larger set of uncorrelated assets that can be easily traded with no liquidity issues. This wasn't really hard to do, using SF code to identify correlation levels and average volumes for a host of potential ETFs. This got me down to a good core set of 12 ETFs that have over 1, 3, and 5 year timeframes shown low correlation with XIV and with each other.

Here is the correlation matrix for these ETFs from 12/01/2016 until 12/01/2017:

VelocityShares Daily Inverse VIX ST ETNXIV-
VanEck Vectors Gold Miners ETFGDX0.01-
iPath S&P GSCI Crude Oil TR ETNOIL0.230.18-0.580.180.160.680.
VanEck Vectors Russia ETFRSX0.440.230.58-
iShares Silver TrustSLV0.010.710.180.23-
United States Natural GasUNG0.
SPDR S&P Oil&Gas Explor&Prodtn ETFXOP0.410.230.680.610.130.20-0.300.170.390.350.22
SPDR S&P Biotech ETFXBI0.480.
iPath Bloomberg Coffee SubTR ETNJO0.
iShares China Large-Cap ETFFXI0.590.070.250.480.080.030.390.370.16-0.580.38
VanEck Vectors Semiconductor ETFSMH0.650.040.170.410.01-0.030.350.470.100.58-0.36
Vanguard REIT ETFVNQ0.510.180.080.310.16-

The correlations between OIL and XOP (0.68), and between SLV and GDX (0.71) are a little higher than I might want, but for reasons explained later I want to keep these guys in the mix.


Since about midsummer I have been playing around with a new trading system development software called Stock NeuroMaster Pro, which uses neural networks to identify patterns (long and short) in stock data and convert them into profitable trading systems. To be honest, these systems work great but are completely opaque in terms of what they do and how they do it.

Important Point - these cannot be translated into any other code, especially Stockfetcher, so don't ask.

To get a better understanding of what neural networks are and how they work, this video I found to be very helpful.

I have been slowly learning how to get the most out of the software, and am at the point where I can share some of my thinking and the system results.


Part of the challenge in trading is not knowing when things will get nasty - we have recently been through a brutal Recession in 2008/2009, but since then it has been an incredible bull market backed by the Fed, near zero interest rates, and multiple rounds of Quantitative Easing. Those days are coming to an end, so any system that you might trade needs to be tested against time frames that include both Bear and Bull markets.

I wanted to do less daily trading and start to focus on weekly data sets, so I chose to develop all of the Neural network systems against weekly data from 12/01/2007 through 12/01/2017 (or from the ETF's date of inception through to 12/01/2017 if it did not exist before 2008). This period caught all of the 2008/2009 recession as well as the 8 year bull market we are currently in.

Going into 2018, all my systems need to be designed to trade their ETF both long and short, and do so with high returns and high win rates. This was something I could not really do in Stratasearch since it only uses daily data, and having tried to develop systems over this time period I never found one that performed all that well.

However, this ended up being a trivial task for the neural network systems. The trade durations are typically 8-10 weeks long, which is an eternity to a lot of folks here on SF. However, you can't really argue with the results ...

Trading period:08/11/08-08/07/1708/25/08-11/27/1705/04/09-12/04/1709/10/07-12/04/1708/11/08-11/27/1708/25/08-11/27/1708/25/08-08/14/1708/11/08-12/04/1709/29/08-12/11/1708/18/08-12/04/1708/15/11-12/11/1708/25/08-12/18/17
Profit (%):478.6888.4532.4775.2714.7665.5446.6661.5426.9600.7960.8654.1
Total net profit $478,603.57 $888,425.08 $532,415.97 $775,156.47 $714,654.28 $665,533.31 $446,582.66 $661,506.74 $426,918.00 $600,722.08 $960,765.67 $654,114.85
Gross profit $482,161.33 $888,425.08 $532,415.97 $776,331.96 $716,871.02 $668,433.57 $447,493.85 $662,142.36 $426,918.00 $600,722.08 $962,417.48 $658,254.01
Gross loss $(3,557.75) $- $- $(1,175.48) $(2,216.74) $(2,900.25) $(911.19) $(635.62) $- $- $(1,651.80) $(4,139.15)
Total # of trades445246534546424250452446
Percent Profitable979810098979597971001009597
Number winning trades435146524444414150452345
Number losing trades100112110011
Largest winning trade $43,144.62 $129,519.00 $76,802.84 $76,407.91 $102,456.34 $174,605.08 $44,030.54 $64,944.28 $46,922.04 $50,181.30 $123,126.14 $67,489.79
Largest losing trade $(3,557.75) $- $- $(1,175.48) $(2,216.74) $(1,837.00) $(911.19) $(635.62) $- $- $(1,651.80) $(4,139.15)
Average winning trade $11,213.05 $17,420.09 $11,574.26 $14,929.46 $16,292.52 $15,191.67 $10,914.48 $16,149.81 $8,538.36 $13,349.37 $41,844.23 $14,627.86
Average losing trade $(3,557.75) $- $- $(1,175.48) $(2,216.74) $(1,450.12) $(911.19) $(635.62) $- $- $(1,651.80) $(4,139.15)
Ratio avg win/avg loss3.150012.77.3410.4711.9725.40025.333.53
Avg trade (win & loss) $10,877.35 $17,085.09 $11,574.26 $14,625.59 $15,881.20 $14,468.11 $10,632.92 $15,750.16 $8,538.36 $13,349.37 $40,031.90 $14,219.88
Max consec. winners252726242324152328271524
Max consec. losers100111110011
Avg # bars in winners9888999989129
Avg # bars in losers200544260044
Profit factor8300324.01149.5179.4347.18345.6600115.8165.38

Frankly, I was stunned at the accuracy and profitability of these systems - I had been tracking a daily NN model for XIV over the past few months and it delivered as well, but it was long-only and developed only over the past two years. These systems consistently shift from long to short during downturns, and the losses are negligible compared to the gains. Used in parallel, they should provide exceptional returns and high win rates while diversifying your investments across a wide range of uncorrelated assets.


Many of these ETFs have triply leveraged versions (both long and short) that can be used to improve trade returns. The very high win percentages seen in these trades offer a chance to boost profits with not much more risk given the strong historical performance seen in the base ETFs. However, these trades typically last 8-10 weeks and traders need to be careful about longer holds on the 3x variants due to price decay as a result of their daily resets.

By now most folks here have clued into the fact that one can use that very same inherent decay seen in the triply leveraged ETFs as another way to help bolster trade performance. My plan here is to use the long and short signals generated for each unleveraged ETF and short the 3x leveraged ETF variant that will give me the same directional trade.

FXI - a BUY signal would become a short trade on YANG, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on YINN.

GDX - a BUY signal would become a short trade on DUST, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on NUGT.

OIL - a BUY signal would become a short trade on DWT, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on UWT.

RSX - a BUY signal would become a short trade on RUSS, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on RUSL.

SLV - a BUY signal would become a short trade on DSLV, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on USLV.

SMH - a BUY signal would become a short trade on SOXS, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on SOXL.

UNG - a BUY signal would become a short trade on DGAZ, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on UGAZ.

VNQ - a BUY signal would become a short trade on DRV, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on DRN.

XBI - a BUY signal would become a short trade on LABD, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on LABU.

XOP - a BUY signal would become a short trade on DRIP, and a SELL signal would become a short trade on GUSH.

For XIV AND JO, there are currently no leveraged variants, so they are traded as the signals would recommend.

Since the signals are triggered off of completed weekly bars, I only need to run the systems on the weekend and take the trades at the open of the following week (as the system backtests have done). No specific need to be watching daily unless that is something I want to do out of interest or boredom. This simpler signaling system will also help me to achieve my goal of NOT OVERTHINKING THE TRADES (a behavior that probably reduced my profits by half in 2017).

I will post each trade signal here, as well as keep track of how each system does using the "short the 3x" approach. My goal for 2018 is to use only this system and to follow it religiously while sharing the trade signals with others. Most of the systems are currently in a trade long or short - I will post the current trade results this weekend. Some are currently trading at a small loss so there is a chance to get in at a better price than the system did.

I am making this thread read-only so that it acts more like a trading log rather than a discussion thread. I folks have questions reach out to me via email here and I'll try to respond within a day or two (I don't check this one all that often any more).

Merry Christmas - this is my gift to my fellow Stockfetchers, one which hopefully will make everyone some profits in the year to come.


Filter Exchange · What happened to "read only" threads? Please bring them back!
msg #140333
12/22/2017 6:42:49 PM

Guys - can you return the read-only option for new threads? As a Christmas gift??

Stock Picks and Trading · Intraday Alerts
msg #140329
12/22/2017 1:34:16 PM

My LABD short got closed by the owner at $4.846 - not sure if all of the shares were repurchased. Will find out what remaining position (if any) I have in this on 12/26. Right now looks like a profitable short netting $2,440 (+4.8%).

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