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General Discussion · Guppy Investigations
msg #149851
12/10/2019 7:03:10 PM


I am also a big fan of Guppy. But I prefer to use the generic term "multiple moving averages" or mMA
Before the term "Guppy" first came to this forum, there were many good mMA discussions in this forum and many good mMA works by other authors and traders at large.

There are also frequent reminders of the fractal nature of moving averages so I try to use the term
"period" instead of :day".

Guppy discussions seem to focus on the "separation" between the short-term traders group and the long-term investors group.

A favorite non-Guppy author talked about the compression point as the value that the short-term traders and the long-term investors both agree on. Rapprochement comes before separation. Compression point is important because it is a commonly accepted value.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149837
12/8/2019 6:23:31 PM

earlier this year (2019) someone mentioned Chartmill for Weinstein stage analysis.

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149832
12/7/2019 3:10:57 PM

nibor100 12/7/2019 1:25:22 PM wrote


a. I'm a big believer in using trial subscriptions to find new stock charting, scanning, etc info. So you could try which provides a free 30 day and they have realtime data for US stocks but in their multiple chart screen they seem to only offer one type of intraday chart of 10 minutes. I don't remember if they have VWAP or not.

b. The old has been brought back under the TC2000 umbrella but is still available for free Follow these steps to get to it:


into you browser address bar and then /__REMOVED__/

at their site choose the get started for Free bar,
provide an email address, download the software.

provide a password and screen name and choose run Free version when it comes up,

That should provide all of the intraday chart types on one screen along with watchlist and indicator capability.
I think the data is mostly realtime from BATS but it can vary up to 15 or 20 minutes
They even offer free 3 hour Gold trial and that might repeat each day,
c. The reason I asked about screen size is that I was thinking you could have 2 or more browser tabs displayed as separate windows(normally by just dragging the tab past the side boundary of your main browser window) and use an SF filter that is applied to only your watchlist with the data you want to see in the columns and in the other tab window have the corresponding SF chart or some other websites chart if you like them better. but that's a no go since you want at least 3 intraday timeframes displayed

Ed S.

A BIG THANK YOU to you, Ed
Much appreciated.
I hope your info helps some other members, too.

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149825
12/6/2019 12:57:34 PM

12/6/2019 10:22:51 AM
Regarding your request
"If you or anyone knows of any non-broker free platform that allows updated intraday watchlist quotes and charts"
A few questions as that screen image that you provided shows quite a bit of stuff.
1. How big is your monitor, or are you using more than one monitor?
2. How important is it for you to have the Time and Sales info and or the Dow Jones News info?
3. How frequent must the intraday updates be or is 15 to 20 minute delay OK?
I have some ideas but I'd rather they be relevant.
Ed S.

Thank you, ED. You are very kind.
I am at a beginning trading level (no options) so my systems display requirements are quite basic.
1. My monitor is 19 inches
2. In the top 2/3 of the screen, I had a spreadsheet type display of my watchlist with rows of symbols and columns of open, high, low, close, changes, volume
AND in the bottom 1/3 of the screen, I had 3 mini charts with 3 intraday timeframes with VWAP and 2 moving averages in each chart
3. My Scottrade update was continuous, so I guess that would be a few seconds delay only. If it paused longer, it signaled something was up. Sometimes I could see transactions of 1 stock only for highly liquid instruments. I could also see phantom bars on 1 min timeframe.

I don't mind paying subscriptions but I'd rather not have to deposit money and open a trading account.

It used to be easier to post picture images but some hosts no longer provide that service.

Thanks again, Ed

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149821
12/6/2019 1:17:51 AM

Thank you, karennma

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149816
12/5/2019 4:22:34 PM

ok, thanks karennma

General Discussion · @graftonian
msg #149808
12/4/2019 5:06:12 PM

karennma, thank you for your stock tips. I will watch for them in case sometimes they retest the recent lows and form a near term double bottom. That's FOMO in me talking.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149807
12/4/2019 4:44:45 PM

Maybe to make money, I should keep in the back of my mind that
a lot of credits for Mac's 2019 rockets should go to Trump, Fed QE & "not QE"
as much as they go to Mac, Guppy and Weinstein.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149806
12/4/2019 4:20:03 PM

Ed S,

Thanks again for your selfless efforts.

I agree that we should not rely on you 100% for backtesting. That would be an unfair burden.

But at least in the near term, some of us certainly would have to rely on you
for the bright ideas that come with your backtesting. For example, I suspect that we may gain
a little more insight from the interplay of your var7 and var9.

Filter Exchange · My goal is to backtest Stan Weinstein method(s) one step at a time
msg #149805
12/4/2019 4:08:54 PM

/* BASIC SUB version of nibor100 backtest */
/* */

market is not etf
average volume(30) > 500000
low > 5

/* 1-2: General assumptions about price and volume*/
close > open
close 1 day ago > open 1 day ago
volume > volume 1 day ago

/* 3: 30-week MA */
/* setting true or false variables for the above and below ma(150) conditions*/
set{cl1,count(close 1 day ago > MA(150),1)}
set{cl2,count(close 2 days ago < MA(150),1)}

/*multiplying those 2 variables together for true when both are 1 or false when 0*/

draw ma(150)

/*setting variable for next day Close-Open Percent Gain*/
set{var2, opcl / open}
set{var3, var2 * 100}

/*Testing the gain variable for 1 day gain or loss*/
set{var4, count( var3 is between 0 and 100, 1)}
set{var6, count( var3 is between -100 and 0, 1)}

/*Only want days filter is true for past year times gain is true or times loss is true*/
set{Tru12, comb1*var4 }
set{var5, count(tru12 > 0 ,252)} and add column var5 {next day winners }
set{Tru13, comb1*var6 }
set{var8, count(tru13 > 0 ,252)} and add column var8 {next day losers }
set{var20, var5 + var8} add column var20 {total hits }
and sort column 7 descending
/* var20 > 0 */ /* EDITED */

/*set variables to draw gains and loss days when true in past year*/
set{var7, Tru12*var3 } draw var7
set{var9, Tru13*var3 } draw var9
chart-time is 252 days

/* 4: Long-range background
set{var1,high 1 day ago}
set{var2, high 3-year high 2 days ago}
set{NewHighs,count(var1 > var2,50)}
add column NewHighs
var1 > var2*/

/* 5: Relative-strength line
Relative Strength(^SPX,150) > 1.5
30-day slope of Relative Strength(^SPX,150) > 0

draw ma(150)
draw high 3-year high
draw Relative Strength(^SPX,150)
do not draw var1
do not draw var2*/

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