StockFetcher Forums · General Discussion · Why the big drop rdn, fre, tma, abk,<< >>Post Follow-up
76 posts
msg #68032
Ignore dforant1
10/3/2008 1:40:16 PM

Evidently they didn't like the 700+B House rescue bill.

256 posts
msg #68034
Ignore FuriousThug
10/3/2008 2:07:25 PM

Buy the rumor, sell the fact.

318 posts
msg #68036
Ignore rtucker
10/3/2008 5:47:30 PM

Talking heads say that the credit markets didnt budge on the
House passage. Market sold off on that news.

If your a simpleton like me just look at this picture daily
( the short end 3m-2yr) for a snapshot of credit markets.

The headlines and THIS may be the what drives the market
short term.

According to Rick Santelli when we were near meltdown a couple weeks back the yeild on
the two year treasury varied from 1.6% TO 2.2% and any break from this range would be

The two year is at 1.58 today so the fear is the same as when P/B were calling for the "end of days".

Hey is this the new VIX? or a leading indicator?

Crporations can't find buyers for their commercial paper, they must offer unusually high interest rates to investors, which sharply raises their cost of doing business. Often they must cut jobs in response, which highlights how Wall Street's problems spill over onto Main Street.

Even at high rates, there aren't many buyers of commercial paper. Usually money-market funds buy this debt, but instead buyers are flocking these days to short-term Treasury bonds, which are believed to be safe.

Corporations "can't come to the market because everyone is scared, and this giant market is starved" for capital, Simons said. "It's really not a market anymore."

Alternative options for corporate borrowing are equally poor. Corporations can issue bonds with near-term maturity dates, but the market for them also is in turmoil.

Normally, drawing down lines of credit at a bank would be another option, but banks are barely lending to each other, much less to businesses, as the credit crunch deepens.

"You may see the Federal Reserve lend in the commercial paper market directly ... rather than jamming money into the banks," Simons said. The Fed "did that in the Great Depression."

The Fed operates as an emergency lender, and it's living up to its billing. The size of its balance sheet grew by $284.3 billion in the week ending Wednesday. Since the beginning of September, Fed credit increased by more than 63 percent to $1.48 trillion.

The credit crunch sent some of the nation's largest employers to Capitol Hill to twist lawmakers' arms Thursday. They hope the House will follow the Senate's lead and pass the Wall Street rescue package today. The House rejected the measure Monday, 228-205, before it was revised.

"Microsoft strongly urges members of the U.S. House of Representatives to reconsider and to support legislation that will re-instill confidence and stability in the financial markets," said Brad Smith, the Redmond software maker's general counsel, in an e-mail to lawmakers. "This legislation is vitally important to the health and preservation of jobs in all sectors of the economy of Washington state and the nation, and we urge Congress to act swiftly."

Corporate titans weren't the only ones pressing lawmakers. Dyke Messinger, chief executive officer of Power Curbers, said he'd laid off two-thirds of his work force at a machinery-manufacturing plant in Salisbury, N.C., because of the credit crisis. "We don't have the work because our American customers can't get the credit to buy our construction machinery," Messinger said.

Information from The Associated Press is included in this report.

Copyright 2008 The Seattle Times Company

More Nation & World headlines...
E-mail article Print view

StockFetcher Forums · General Discussion · Why the big drop rdn, fre, tma, abk,<< >>Post Follow-up

*** Disclaimer *** does not endorse or suggest any of the securities which are returned in any of the searches or filters. They are provided purely for informational and research purposes. does not recommend particular securities., Vestyl Software, L.L.C. and involved content providers shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken based on the content.

Copyright 2018 - Vestyl Software L.L.C.Terms of Service | License | Questions or comments? Contact Us
EOD Data sources: DDFPlus & CSI Data Quotes delayed during active market hours. Delay times are at least 15 mins for NASDAQ, 20 mins for NYSE and Amex. Delayed intraday data provided by DDFPlus

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.