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Kevin_in_GA
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msg #130381
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8/11/2016 5:23:43 PM

Actually there were no shares to short this afternoon on IB. I was short 800 shares at $12.00 and out 7 minutes later at $11.70 for a quick gain of $232.

Then got cocky at re-shorted 350 shares at $13.14. Will hold until end of the day tomorrow since this guy is hyperbought.

Also went short 1500 shares of MPET (thank Shilllihs' filter for that one) at $6.00 and exited at $5.85 for a quick gain of $208.

johnpaulca
12,036 posts
msg #130386
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8/12/2016 10:17:37 AM

johnpaulca
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msg #130380
- Edit message 8/11/2016 4:01:48 PM

johnpaulca
9,960 posts
msg #130378
- Edit message 8/11/2016 3:25:46 PM

REN....looking to short at $13.79
Monthly BB40 will be major resistance, stop will on the 2nd 30min bar tomorrow.
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glad I didn't pull the trigger, time and sales was important in this decision.

"stop will on the 2nd 30min bar tomorrow". 2nd bar opened above $14.20(mid point of the first bar), this tells me we have more buyers than sellers, this would be my signal to cover the position.

johnpaulca
12,036 posts
msg #130389
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8/12/2016 10:37:49 AM

REN($14.77)....profit taking started, now $14.20 should fail. low of day $13.44 could be a good short scalp.

Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #130394
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8/12/2016 11:13:42 AM

Still no shares of REN to short - I tried adding to my position at $15.14 but no shares were available.

BarTune1
441 posts
msg #130401
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8/12/2016 3:03:08 PM

Kevin,

When I can't borrow, I sell near-term calls deep enough in the money such that the delta is close to 1. Like with a $8 or $9 strike. Good proxy for going short when the shares are not otherwise available to borrow.



Kevin_in_GA
4,599 posts
msg #130402
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modified
8/12/2016 3:05:34 PM

You know me and options ... I take this as a sign to stay out of any further trades on REN and let my current position play out.

Besides, my positions in MTZ and GOGO are reverting and I have nailed a few long trades off of Pangolin Z, so net I am feeling good about today.

mahkoh
1,065 posts
msg #130409
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8/13/2016 3:53:25 PM

Bartune, how would that work? The spread on the 9 strike is almost $2 and you can't expect a quick fill at the midpoint. I think you would at least lose $1 on the spread

BarTune1
441 posts
msg #130411
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modified
8/13/2016 7:22:35 PM

mahkoh,

Ignore the spread ... the market makers will fill the order if the price you offer is even a couple of cents below what the stock is trading at .... I have REN closing at 14.43 .... you could put an order in to sell $9 strike calls at $5.40 and they will fill .... on near term expiry, delta will be close to 1.

If REN dropped to 13.43 .... you could place an order to buy back at say $4.50. You'd then make say 90 cents per share ... or $90 per contract.

I've been shorting REN in 600 share increments so I would have sold 6 contacts. That being said, I use TD as a broker and have had no problems borrowing.

One I haven't been able to borrow is CMCM so I sold 6 $8 strike contracts on Friday for $5,30 .... equivalent to shorting the stock at $13.30. Its now at $13.26. If it say drops in the $12 range I can buy the contracts back for $4 and change.

Calls have to be relatively near term and deep enough in the money so the delta will stay around 1. Not as efficient as shorting the shares directly but works as a good proxy if you can't otherwise borrow.

mahkoh
1,065 posts
msg #130417
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modified
8/14/2016 4:36:14 AM

Thanks, Bartune. Makes sense.

BTW, why are you shorting CMCM at this price? I don't see resistance until 13.70 - 13.90 ?

BarTune1
441 posts
msg #130429
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8/15/2016 11:06:19 AM

mahkoh,

Yes I'm short CMCM. It showed up on one of my Connors Short filters also had a ConnorsRSI reading of 95 or so on Friday. Down slightly on it currently.

I try to balance long and short positions overall but have been a little too short lately and its costing me this month.



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